Two things

[merlinofchaos]

1) George Carlin was a funny, funny man. I'm glad I got to see him live once.

2) I'm really tired of anybody who supports Obama over Clinton being called sexist. If anyone dare SUGGEST that a person supporting Clinton over Obama is racist, you'll never hear the end of it, but thinking Clinton is too heavily tied to the establishment and mistrusting her for her actions? Sexist.

Tired of it. Sorry, just because Clinton has tits different anatomy from me doesn't make her any more qualified than Obama, any more than being Obama being a black man brother has anything to do with why I think he is the better choice.

(Edited slightly to preserve intent; original phrasing left in).

Comments

[merlinofchaos]

Sorry, I didn't say she IS tits, I said she HAS tits. In the same way that I have a penis.

I used a belittling phrase specifically because I think her gender is unimportant. She has tits. I have a cock. I don't fucking care, and all you're doing is is telling me that not caring is misogyny. Sorry, not buying it. It's the same argument that makes being liberal dirty, and I thought you'd be above that.

Besides, I'm trying to think of a feature that all black people have, but alas, I can't. See, the problem is that it's not a stereotype to say that women have tits, but it is a stereotype to say that black people have nappy hair, since they don't. Hell, it's hard to tell what exactly it is that makes black people black, other than having dark enough skin and saying "I am black," and enough having other people agree to it.

Uhh, I could go the Eddie Murphy route and say that black folks have thick lips. Hm. Except they don't. They're not gangster, etc etc.

Sorry, the more I think about this, the more that it pisses me off that you zeroed in on the fact that I referred to a part of her anatomy as being irrelevant and wrote scathing paragraphs about it to be simply appalling.

It's as though you would actually prefer it if I did care about her gender. OH WAIT, I forgot, that's the point. Because there's so much sexism going on, the fact that I don't care about her gender does make me sexist.

[eyelessgame.livejournal.com]

Having now seen a little of what you're upset about, I can see where your buttons got pushed. I crossed the line, at least in my first paragraph.

I am privileged to listen mostly to reasonable feminists, thus I suppose I forget the really insane ones are out there.

Apologies for pushing as many of your buttons as I did. But I was trying to express that there really is a lot of legitimate hurt out there, hurt that right now is seeing bad intentions everywhere (because some nasty surprises came out during the primary and there's a lot of trust lost as a result), and as a matter of cold political calculation, it may be worthwhile to tread carefully.

Which of course I did not do.

[merlinofchaos]

I agree with and respect the notion that there is a lot of hurt out there, and that there is a lot going on that is sexist. It's pretty easy to take my commentary as a denial that it is happening, but I have reread what I wrote quite carefully a number of times to make sure that I never said, nor even implied any kind of denial that there is sexism, and that it is happening.

I still, however, deplore the notion that simply supporting Obama is sexist, as though he has somehow become a symbol of everything that is wrong with our society right now, because he is in a position where all of that hurt and anger and fear (fear that things won't ever change) is getting redirected at him because at the moment, he's a very convenient target. And then there's the guilt by association. I recognize that Obama is not perfect, and that he is an ambitious politician amongst other ambitious politicians, but I'm not ready to believe for one minute that because sexism pervades the media that Obama is in any way responsible for it any more than any other candidate would be.

I realize that right now, tempers are high and nerves are frayed, but there are people out there LOOKING for excuses to be able to label people sexist so they can ignore or belittle ideas they don't agree with, or worse, make sure those ideas are obscured by the angry rhetoric. It's pretty hard to see through the cloud of emotion, especially since this kind of thing devolves to name calling pretty much immediately.

Just like eyelessgame's post did, where he opened it by writing mocking sentences making what I said into stereotypical sexist stuff. Which, btw, is exactly how the republican attack machine operates. It's exactly how liberal gets turned into a dirty word.